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[chiefsmoke]

since today is monday in order to cheer you up a little bit for the whole week ahead, let's try this small abbreviation challenge right here:

1/ A.K.A (ex, aka Chiefsmoke)

2/ O.B.O (ex, obo Chiefsmoke)

what do they stand for???

again there will be a "clap clap...well done" for the first one to answer.

note: Senior buddies not allowed, let's the Juniors try. (correction: let the Juniors try => correct version)
Chiefsmoke

[rukkhamula]

Hello Chiefsmoke,

I won't give the game away with the abbreviations, but forgive me if I pick you up on (do you know this phrasal verb?) something in your message. 'Let's the Juniors try' is not correct.

There are two uses of 'let' being confused here, and they need to be carefully separated.

1) To allow/to permit: Let + infinitive.

This is the use that you have in your message. The correct form is:

Let the juniors try.

2) The first person plural imperative: Let + us + infinitive.

Let's go to the market.

It's grammatically possible to combine the two uses in a single sentence:

Let's let him speak. (Let us allow him to speak.)

I hope you don't mind if I correct your message. Since a lot of learners look at the posts here, it's important that they see correct forms.

All the best to you.

To pick someone up on something

[PHRASAL VERB] V n P P n
If you pick someone up on something that they have said or done, you mention it and tell them that you think it is wrong. (mainly BRIT)
...if I may pick you up on that point...
Collins CoBUILD Advanced Learner's Dictionary, 5th Edition

[chiefsmoke]

hello Rukkhamula,

Thanks for this and yeah, I don't mind that, instead I hope to receive more correction from other members too, hmm..it is great to have an active english speaker in the forum. You are right at the point that many people are looking at these posts. Usually i rely on the correcting function in office Word which is not so good.

Indeed i had the same thing going through my mind after i pressed enter. but i was a bit confused if "let's" or "let" was the correct one.

now i can remember
let's is followed by a Verb
let is normally followed by Subject and Verb

i also recall another one now: "let go !!" (someone grap my hand and i ask him to get his hand off) or "learn to let go" which carries the meaning of learning to forget. Anyway i guess these are merely combination of another verb with let.


cheers,

[dethuong_x0x]

since today is monday in order to cheer you up a little bit for the whole week ahead, let's try this small abbreviation challenge right here:

1/ A.K.A (ex, aka Chiefsmoke)

2/ O.B.O (ex, obo Chiefsmoke)

what do they stand for???

again there will be a "clap clap...well done" for the first one to answer.

note: Senior buddies not allowed, let's the Juniors try. (correction: let the Juniors try => correct version)
Chiefsmoke

Even i'm senior member, I don't know what they stand for.

[chiefsmoke]

Now, it has been almost a week still no answer (though i believe many people in this forum can answer especially those who speak English as their mother language). The reason i put these "quizzes" right here is because i think these are some of the abbreviation people tend to use quite a lot either in writen form (mail) or conversation in Western country, but for English learner, on the other hand, chances are that they can hear this somewhere but i think it is not really usual you see these abbreviation in Vietnam. Anyway here comes the answer:

AKA stands for: Also known as (e.g My name is James Bond aka 007) this is used in both writing and speaking

OBO stands for: on behalf of , this one i have seen in writing only.

hope you guys find this thing useful.

Me aka Chiefsmoke

[MANH NGUYEN]

Now, it has been almost a week still no answer (though i believe many people in this forum can answer especially those who speak English as their mother language). The reason i put these "quizzes" right here is because i think these are some of the abbreviation people tend to use quite a lot either in writen form (mail) or conversation in Western country, but for English learner, on the other hand, chances are that they can hear this somewhere but i think it is not really usual you see these abbreviation in Vietnam. Anyway here comes the answer:

AKA stands for: Also known as (e.g My name is James Bond aka 007) this is used in both writing and speaking

OBO stands for: on behalf of , this one i have seen in writing only.

hope you guys find this thing useful.

Me aka Chiefsmoke

Chiefsmoke,
You said, "....instead I hope to receive more correction from other members too." Are there any errors where I have highlited?
Cordially,

[chiefsmoke]

there are always mistakes somewhere even native speakers make mistakes when they type you know hee hee...and i am not.

ok, i forgot the "s" for plural form of "abbreviation"

but Me i think is okay...or isn't it?

[MANH NGUYEN]

there are always mistakes somewhere even native speakers make mistakes when they type you know hee hee...and i am not.

ok, i forgot the "s" for plural form of "abbreviation"

but Me i think is okay...or isn't it?

Chiefsmoke,
It is understandable, but very questionable!!! I think that "Me" is not fit (or proper) at the beginning of a sentence!
me (mē)
pron. The objective case of I1.
1. Used as the direct object of a verb: He assisted me.
2. Used as the indirect object of a verb: They offered me a ride.
3. Used as the object of a preposition: This letter is addressed to me.
4. Informal Used as a predicate nominative: It's me. See Usage Notes at be, but, I1.
5. Nonstandard Used reflexively as the indirect object of a verb: I bought me a new car.

I'd rather write:
I, named James Bond aka 007.
Your name is James Bond, aka 007. Mine is John Doe....
This is James Bond, aka 007. He is James Bond....
Just something for you to ponder.

Cordially,

[chiefsmoke]

Chiefsmoke,
It is understandable, but very questionable!!! I think that "Me" is not fit (or proper) at the beginning of a sentence!
me (mē)
pron. The objective case of I1.
1. Used as the direct object of a verb: He assisted me.
2. Used as the indirect object of a verb: They offered me a ride.
3. Used as the object of a preposition: This letter is addressed to me.
4. Informal Used as a predicate nominative: It's me. See Usage Notes at be, but, I1.
5. Nonstandard Used reflexively as the indirect object of a verb: I bought me a new car.

I'd rather write:
I, named James Bond aka 007.
Your name is James Bond, aka 007. Mine is John Doe....
This is James Bond, aka 007. He is James Bond....
Just something for you to ponder.

Cordially,

umm...thanks for the explanation.

Seems to me the basic rule is that if it is in the position of a Subject (before the verb) then use I, if it is as an Object (after the Verb) then obviously we use Me. This aligns with what you wrote above for which i agree. Combination (you and me or you and i) is then a different case.

in my sentence i didn't put any verbs and thus nothing to define it as a Suject or Object. it is just "Me", alone, more like "it's Me, aka Chiefsmoke"
in a shorter version.

If i had written "I", there would have been an expectation that there was going to have a verb coming along which i dont like.

grammatically, now how can you prove me wrong...?

look, i have to say there is no bad feeling here, i just want to challenge as i find your explanation not quite convincing. and challenging is a good way to learn.

i actually know all these rules including the "let and let's" one, but it is just there is a distance between knowing it and using it as a default without having to stop, and think and speak that i need to fine tune somehow. Experience is a harsh teacher. today you guys corrected me, tomorrow i wont make the same mistake again...provided that i understand the rule.

Chiefsmoke
(p.s: are there many mistakes in this reply???...errr....)